Author Topic: c/n 1251, N5072K  (Read 9761 times)

Doug Johnson

c/n 1251, N5072K
« on: April 21, 2015, 03:57:27 AM »
14 pictures check your albums. Please do an internet search maybe you'll come up with one I couldn't find, I need all the help I can get.

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c/n 1251, built 04/67 as U-10D s/n 66-14349 for USAF accepted 04/67, t/n “14349“ USAF CA Air National Gaurd 129th ACS Hayward CA until 11/74, storage MASDC Davis-Monthan AFB AZ released from storage 06/79, as N5072K to OK CAP 1 of 15 converted to tri gear sold '82, Gregg & Ruby Thompson OK sold '83, Fred Rulison NY sold '91, Phillip & Mary Middleton WA sold '02, Peter & Cheryl Meisner OR incident on climb out, the pilot experienced a loss of power followed by a loss of oil pressure and requested routing to the nearest airport. Diverted to Oxnard and within 6 miles of the airport, the engine failed. Pilot glided successfully to the runway and landed without further trouble @ Oxnard CA 08/02, paint scheme was copyrighted Peter Meisner OR sold '12, Jim Meier Portland, OR (2nd of 3) refurbished '13 rebuilt engine & prop installed 1400 series dorsal fin 1400 series interior including individual seats with Oregon Aero upholstery new panel installed, retained non symmetrical U-10D configuration retained baggage door Installed Landis nose fork with 8.50x6 Goodyear wheel & new shimmy damper sold 8/17, Univest Aviation llc (Tom Lowe) AZ
incident while landing nose wheel collapse @ Scottsdale AZ 02/18


Oklahoma civil air patrol

wing with red tip had fuel tank explosion

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Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 07:34:16 PM »
N5072 is like a new plane with new Oregon Aero interior, seats, flooring, carbon fiber side panels, large nose wheel, new panel, baggage door,  slat rollers and tomahawks, etc. Now in process of updating N68885. Lots of support and parts from Gordon Cragg, Steve Murray, Jim Danish, and others.


Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2015, 12:11:50 PM »
Photo of muffler equipped plane is ours.  N5387G   1257   


Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2015, 05:38:56 PM »
FYI, N5072K is for sale. 

See the listing here:

Doug Johnson 1

Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 07:22:56 AM »
Here is an early picture of c/n 1251 while still in service before being placed in storage

opened as number 1st in the queue above.

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Doug Johnson 1

Re: c/n 1251, N5072K incident
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2018, 12:33:48 PM »
Kat, informed me about this nose gear collapse on landing

She asked the same question I am. Hard landing? Nose wheel landing?

My next question is how can it be an incident while landing as stated in the report, and not an accident?

I see #1251 N5072K was sold and registered to Univest Aviation llc, Scottsdale AZ Anyone know if this is Jack N Ross of Univest Properties, llc ?
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 08:09:22 AM by Doug Johnson 1 »

Doug Johnson 1

Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 08:43:37 AM »
More about accident. The paper reports it as a 'Hard Landing'.

Interesting reply to my question about incident or accident.

"If no structural damage affecting flying characteristics has happened, no serious injuries or fatalities, no in-flight fire is considered incident. So hard landing can be reported as incident or actually wouldn’t necessarily need to be reported to NTSB, if no one is hurt.

However looking at the pictures, the prop is bent, the engine is damaged and who knows how much damage is done to the nose wheel area etc. So definitely expensive incident. I wonder if the pilot had much Helio time.

opened photo in the queue above
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Kevin Dunn

Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2018, 05:34:18 PM »
FAA Order 8020.11C

d. Aircraft Accident - an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft which takes
place between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight and until such time as
all such persons have disembarked, and in which any person suffers death or serious injury, or in
which the aircraft receives substantial damage. All aspects of the exceptions to substantial damage
(see "Substantial Damage") should be considered before making a final substantial damage
determination that would classify the occurrence as an accident.

ff. Substantial Damage - damage or failure which adversely affects the structural strength,
performance, or flight characteristics of the aircraft, and which would normally require major repair or
replacement of the affected component. Engine failure or damage limited to an engine if only one
engine fails or is damaged, bent fairings or cowling, dented skin, small punctured holes in the skin or
fabric, ground damage to rotor or propeller blades, and damage to landing gear, wheels, tires, flaps,
engine accessories, brakes, or wing tips are not considered substantial damage for the purpose of this

r. Incident - an occurrence other than an accident associated with the operation of an aircraft,
which affects or could affect the safety of operations.

Clearly an incident. 


Doug Johnson 1

Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2019, 08:50:33 AM »
Another picture of c/n 1251 this time of the right side shortly before being placed in storage

Opened photo in the queue above.

« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 12:23:52 PM by Doug Johnson 1 »

Doug Johnson 1

Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2019, 09:37:09 AM »
Found a couple pictures

The first is taken at Tinker AFB while with CA Air National Guard I will open it as #3 in the queue above.

The second a better photo of 1251's last incident, I will open it as #12.

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Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2020, 05:53:54 PM »
LOL...haven't been on this site for months, funny how the internet coughs up old photos from time to time.  The last photo is NOT the "restored" Helio, I took that photo of Jim departing Twin Oaks (7S3) in April 2014 after we did some air-to-air photos together.  That would be about 3+ years PRIOR to the prang it suffered after we sold it to the new owner in CA.  The "wrinkle" you see is actually the blister fairing added way back when to cover the conventional landing gear thru-box when the ANG converted it to tri-gear.   Hopefully by now it's truly back in the sky.
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Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 1251, N5072K
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2020, 11:28:21 AM »
Why havent you looked at this site for months, you need to keep checking for errors like the last picture not being a new picture I will move the picture above the incident and keep an eye out for a current picture of N5072K hopefully a photo that shows it as completely restored.

edited and removed remark about restored picture moved pic above incident
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