Author Topic: c/n 506, XW-PGB  (Read 2609 times)

Doug Johnson

c/n 506, XW-PGB
« on: February 11, 2015, 02:35:17 PM »
9 pictures check your albums. Please do an internet search maybe you'll come up with one I couldn't find, I need all the help I can get.

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The first photo from the Dave Menard/Paul Paulsen collection shows a Helio with spurious tail number "83097" a number which follows the last number of a canceled contract for 4 Helios is a completely fictitious number it was painted very dark blue "looked black" (same as applied on CIA's Neptune and U-2 aircraft) may have become the second Helio 58-7026 in the next Helio contract and was later transferred to Air Asia (CIA).

c/n 506, s/n 58-7026 built 01/59 as L-28A for USAF accepted 02/59, tail/number “87026" went to  USAF Air Research & development Command at Edwards AFB Flight Test center CA 02/59, HQ Command Technical Research (joint USAF/CIA) Bollings AFB DC struck off charge 02/60, USAF released as N9793F (FAA file missing ?) sold 03/60, (Pacific Corp CIA) transfer 03/60, Air Asia rereg as B-835 Air America (2nd Helio of 29 acquired) Tainan Taiwan, accident(1) pilot lost control while landing on a training flight @ Okinawa-Okuma Airport Japan 03/60, incident engine damaged by ground fire an emergency landing was made by Ron Sutphin @ Ban Khan Dia Thailand 03/60, accident(2) made a hard landing @ unknown airstrip, Laos 03/61, accident(3) damage to fuselage @ (“16”) Phou Fa, Laos 05/61, flown back to Vientiane then ferried to Bangkok repaired and returned to service at Vientiane the next day, accident(4) while landing due to restricted visibility in bad weather @ (LS-15) Ban Na Laos 08/61, parts from unknown555” (not c/n 555) used to rebuild it 3/62, rereg as B-865 Air Asia Tainan, probably flown as unpolished bare aluminum “865” for an undetermined period of time after China and Laos broke off diplomatic relations in mid-1962, accident(5) just as aircraft was about to touchdown pilot lifted up to avoid horses on the runway then crash-landed on the other side of them @ (LS-20A) Long Tieng Laos 12/62, accident(6) badly bent @ (LS-89) Ban Vieng Laos 05/63, accident(7) made a hard landing @ unknown airstrip Laos 06/63, accident(8 ) on takeoff after hitting small trees crashed onto the mountain side @ Phu Bia mountain Xiangkhouang Province, Laos 03/65, accident(9) while landing lost control due to brake failure @ unknown airstrip in Laos 05/66, incident made a successful emergency landing on a road after engine failure @ (LS-62A Hong Sa Laos 08/66, accident(10) on takeoff due to cross winds @ (V-02) Bien Hoa S/Vietnam 03/67, incident engine damaged by ground fire after a successful emergency landing on a road, during recovery by an Air America UH-34D helicopter, it was dropped and more substantial damage was incurred @ near (V-169) Long Xuyen S/Vietnam 10/67, incident damaged when backed into by a vehicle while parked @ (V-17) Can Tho S/Vietnam 04/68, accident(11) propeller blades hit an object during run up @ Saigon Airport S/Vietnam 12/68 sold 5/69, as XW-PGB Air America Vientiane Thailand until 08/71, placed in inactive storage Tainan Taiwan until 03/74, reg cancelled sold to Aviation Associates in Manila, Philippines used for parts

Below “83097” photo of Helio with spurious t/n that was used on another a/c type. Painted Very Dark Blue looked
black (as applied on CIA's Neptune and U-2 aircraft) probably 58-7026



Below somewhat of a mystery photo, reportedly the Air Force only had three L-28A Helios at this time 58-7025, 58-7026, and 58-7027. so how come there are 4 Helios in the picture. A closer look from a different source shows all 3 to be H-391Bs none are the other two aircraft in the contract of 3.

below rereg 8/60 as B-835

below rereg 3/65 as B-865 and probably accident #5 because it still has the B in the registry mark.



Incident engine damaged by ground fire, after a successful emergency landing on a road, during recovery by an Air America UH-34D helicopter, it was dropped and more substantial damage was incurred @ near (V-169) Long Xuyen S/Vietnam 10/67

Above Sikorsky UH-34D 'Air america' Helicopter H-35, after March '67 became 'Royal Lao'  “5769” with Royal Laotian Erwan. accident also happened March '67
« Last Edit: September 11, 2021, 11:47:48 AM by Doug Johnson »
Doug

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 506, as "87026"
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2019, 10:11:23 AM »
This is kind of interesting picture because it shows 3 Helios in the background for a total of 4, supposedly the USAF only had 3 Helios '58-7025', '58-7026' and '58-7027' total, and by 2/60 all three were with the CIA and had different paint schemes. According to USAF records the first of the Helios '62-3604' of the 2nd contract of 6 more didn't arrive until 12/60, a 10 moth gap.

a closer look from a different source show them to all be H-391Bs, So apparently this photo was taken just after being built 01/59

I will open the picture 4th in the queue above.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2021, 05:10:39 PM by Doug Johnson »
Doug

Louis

Re: c/n 506, XW-PGB
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2019, 04:47:36 PM »
This is really a beautiful photo.  Sharp. 

Thanks

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 506 as B-865
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2020, 04:43:17 PM »
found another picture 0f c/n 506 as B-865.

Too bad I don't have enough info to tell for sure wnich accident it was, but possibly it was accident #5 because it is still marked B-865. The 'B' was removed on the majority of the Air America Helio's in mid 1962. Also accident #6 was listed as badly bent so possibly this was the crash landing 12/62.
 
Still need a photo of the a/c as XW-PGB.

Opened this photo as #6 above
Doug

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 506, XW-PGB
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2021, 10:17:36 AM »
Photos taken early '65 because by mid '65 the B was removed from the registry mark.

Pilot in photo Air America Captain Robert Wofford

We still need a photo of the a/c as XW-PGB.

I will open it at bottom of photo queue above
« Last Edit: June 24, 2021, 11:03:36 AM by Doug Johnson »
Doug

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 506, XW-PGB
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2021, 04:28:42 AM »
I found this photo with some other c/n 506 photos the photo caption only says 'Helio being retrieved by Helicopter 1967'.

The Air America incident report's details says an Army Chinook helicopter was used. See History paragraph at top of page I removed the referral to chinook and just used the generic helicopter.

The helicopter shown is an army green helicopter but not a chinook or an HH-3E green giant used on all other helio helicopter retrievals.

I'm not sure which helicopter this is but I'm going to post the picture here and edit the history post if I figure it out.

we still need a photo as XW-PGB

« Last Edit: July 01, 2021, 12:05:27 PM by Doug Johnson »
Doug

hawkseye66

Re: c/n 506, XW-PGB
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2021, 01:58:57 AM »
The helicopter is an Air America UH-34D, serial H-35. Current with Air America May 65 to cMay68.

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 506, XW-PGB
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2021, 11:50:48 AM »
Thanks I edited the History paragraph above
Doug