Author Topic: Helio #039 up for grabs!!  (Read 7750 times)

gearedone

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Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« on: November 07, 2012, 04:09:31 PM »
N565JS an unofficial L-24/U-10 if there is such a thing, is for sale

Good luck trying to get get $89, 500.00 for a 391B

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/HELIO-H-391B/1956-HELIO-H-391B/1253013.htm

Doug Johnson

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2012, 09:19:07 AM »
This is what I have on this particular Helio #039.
little bit of the missing info prior to '62.

It is the Helio in the background of the National Geographic society Picture I posted earlier. The one in the foreground is N4200B FAA files show it as a second 004 or 006 changed to 004.

c/n 039 construction date 12/56  Model H-391/395A originally N4118D Rounds and Porter Lumber co KS until '59, Rockport Redwood co CA until '62, National Geographic Society DC install 2 JATO units arresting gear and ground to air pickup equip sold '64, Blackstock Lumber co WA sold '70, James Bishop AK removed crosswind gear '75, Jerome Near & James Bishop AK install wheel skis accident Pilot reported strong gusty winds caused the aircraft to veer off the runway and strike a gravel bank 8/83 @ Soldotna AK sold '86, Ron Sutphin rebuild OR '89, Wayne Alsworth AK until '92, Andrew McGregor CO '99, John Bellamy NY '01, N565JS Joe Salomone painted with military scheme sold '07, Nevada Land and Wind-power llc Cliff Johnson in Chico, CA


I have heard that some honest research was done here and if the Army had actually ordered a 1956 L-24, modeled on the Armys single 1954 YL-24, this is the paint scheme that it probably would have had. Anyone Know if this is true?

Doug
   
« Last Edit: November 08, 2012, 03:26:11 PM by Doug Johnson »
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gearedone

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Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 10:27:23 AM »
Doug, Joe Salomone had it painted in it's current configuration, I think in 1999, it then went to Sun-n-Fun and was awarded Best Military ?? something or another and Mark Price flew N444PB also painted in similar non standard U.S. Army to the same event. They flew them to Oshkosh to yet again receive more prestigious awards in the Warbirds department of EAA, after that it was sold to Cliff Johnson in Chico, CA.

I have the Warbirds article on both H-391's

Stephen

391stol

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 10:51:51 AM »
Check out that T&G pine on the headliner. That is a first.  Was this something the military did?? or is that a personal touch??

gearedone

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Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 10:59:30 AM »
That is the work of Joe Salomone when he did the restoration, just talked with him in Florida!!

Doug Johnson

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 03:45:06 PM »
Stephen,
Thanks for the correction I had no Idea who owned it at the time just a Delaware co also I was  unable to catch the significance of JS in the registry Mark.

Please see my edit above. Do I have it correct now.

also on N444PB was there some research done to see if this military paint scheme wold have fit a 1957 Army L-24?
« Last Edit: November 13, 2012, 05:47:02 PM by Doug Johnson »
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gearedone

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Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2012, 10:03:44 AM »
« Last Edit: November 13, 2012, 06:38:48 AM by gearedone »

Jason Stephens

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2012, 04:01:24 PM »
Anything touched by Joe Salomone should be at the very least looked over extremely thoroughly if not avoided at all costs.

Ravens

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2014, 03:14:15 AM »
Well, tonight while watching an ESPN II Karate competition in my favorite Mexican restaurant at 5:50 p.m. at the bar, I was surprised to see a Paul Mitchell hair care products commercial for men suddenly begin with a close shot of the rt. side of the fuselage and tail of a H-391 !!

 I knew it was a Helio the instant I saw the underside of the long rt flap and the long fuselage and its yellow rt tail-horizontal stab behind the well groomed handsome pilot actor guy.  I never saw a Helio pilot look this well groomed or this well dressed!  However, I was so focused in to looking at the Helio that I didn't even note what the product was, just that the handsome, suave and debonaire guy was quite fussy about his hair in the window reflection.


As I found out by Googling, the actor is Angus Mitchell, Paul Mitchell's son and partner in their hair care business.  Through Airport-Data.com search I discovered that this 1956 H-391B is N565JS, c/n 039.  It's based in Camarillo, Ca., where the TV commercial must have been filmed.  I sleuthed out two of this H-391 B's hanger mates from background panning glimpses.  I think the DHC-2 DeHavilland Beaver on amphibs in the background is a 1956 Beaver, N233N, c/n 976.  The Beaver is listed as being based in Seattle, Wa.

 Doug Robertson, a major great Airport-Data.com contributing photographer, has some good pics of the '56 Beaver stablemate on wheels at nearby Santa Paula airport. The blue and white Cessna in the rt. background is a 1981 Cessna T 210N, N6329Y.  As with the Mitchell Helio TV star H-391B, I also identified the glimpse of the T210N's N number through a Doug Robertson photo.

  I knew this great Helio forum would have plenty of history about this early 391B 1956 Helio; I wasn't disappointed.  Thanks everyone for the info on # 039 !  I was surprised to learn that it was the Rockport, Ca. Mendocino Redwood lumber company Helio (piloted by the company's legendary female pilot, Meta Pool), and was also owned much later by Cliff Johnson of Chico, Ca.  I remember when Cliff Johnson had it up for sale.

 You can view this 30 second Paul Mitchell commercial by searching:  Paul Mitchell TV Commercial, 'Airplane' Featuring Angus Mitchell.  The tagline title of the ad is "Style is Groomed, Not Born."  It's on Youtube and iSpot.  I think for the Helio Couriers, their legendary style originates from birth first !!  Interesting, when i zoomed in on Robertson's Airport-Data.com photo and first saw the L-24/U-10 painted on the left side by the pilots door, my first reaction was, -What???  Is this an Army history lesson, or the military aircraft designation, - a hybrid?  "The Ravens--Laos" is painted on, as well.

 If there were airplanes in all TV ads, it would sure get my instant attention, even in a crowded noisy Valentine's Day Cantina, but as i proved to myself in this Mitch The Man grooming products Helio ad, I would never remember the name of the product.

« Last Edit: February 15, 2014, 10:31:25 AM by Ravens »

Louis

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2014, 05:18:35 AM »

cliff johnsen

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2022, 01:21:08 PM »
Cliff Johnsen here.  I loved this plane and had it about 5 years.  It went places I would not attempt in a Super Cub.
Checking out a sand bar with a low pass, it will fly slow enough to see the size of the rocks /boulders.   Any other plane would show a blur in the fly by.

Andy Kapp and the Ravens logo was painted by a friend and neighbor Ira Latour.  He is a pretty famous artist and did the nose art in many WW2 planes.  He was about 85 when he did the pics.

The pic is on approach to a meadow near Mt Lassen.  700 ' of  usable space and 90' trees at both ends.  5500' elevation.  Those huge flaps allowed it to get down in time and not end up in the creek.  We often had to circle inside the trees leaving.  The blur is the prop just over the trees.

cliff johnsen

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2022, 01:29:14 PM »
PS
I have been to the Rock Port lumber yard  (now abandoned).  I had previously had conversations with Andy,, who used to be the yard manager when it was in operation.   He told me hair raising stories of landings (down wind) in between the lumber piles.

Doug Johnson

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2022, 01:12:11 AM »
Here is the link to the rest of the info on c/n 039,

https://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?topic=686.msg3648;topicseen#msg3648
Doug

Jason Stephens

Re: Helio #039 up for grabs!!
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2022, 02:47:52 PM »
Fishing in a Hello is a perfect day.