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General Helio Discussion / Re: c/n 6, as N10036
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 17, 2021, 07:37:48 PM »
While trying to figure out the Ferry Route, I was hoping to come up with some more Twin photos here at Air History or where I found a bit more about the ferry flt from Norwood MA at the Malta site.

https://www.airhistory.net/original-type/750/Helio-H-250-295-391-392-395-700-800-Courier-L-24-U-10

or here http://www.aviationinmalta.com/CivilGeneralAviation/Deliveries/PropsTurboprops/tabid/875/language/en-US/Default.aspx

The Malta site shows Edward A. Cunningham as pilot on Twin Helio #6 as well as twin Helio Twin Helio #1 and 2 #6 was the 5th Helio Twin to refuel at Malta on 03/'66.

The Malta site also shows a ferry route from Boston, Torbay, Santa Maria, Valencia to/Beirut which seemed like kind of a confusing route to take to get to Malta. The ferry permit shows final destination as Thailand another 4000 miles, even the final destination of Charbatia an Air Base in Eastern India is 2700 miles but it got sorted out with BW's help.

The Atlantic crossing route on all of the 5 twin helios, is Torbay to Santa Maria the shorter southern route, with 2500 mile range, turbocharged twin engines and equipped with oxygen to flyover most weather it seems to be the logical route.

sorted route; using BW's info
Boston-(actually Norwood MA)
Torbay, (Newfoundland near St Johns)
Santa Maria, (island in the Azores, close to San Miguel) ​
Valencia, (Spain)
Luqa, (Malta)
Beirut, (Lebanon)
should be a stop between Beirut and Thailand
Thailand, maybe Udorn
Charbatia Air Base, India

see BW's post below

Torbay is Newfoundland near St Johns.  Santa Maria is island in the Azores up close to San MIguel (which is now the major airport) Valencia, Malta, Bierut all are fine.  Seems like there must have been another stop somewhere between Beirut and India. For Thailand in those days the big Helio/CIA/ Etc operational base was Udorn (Udorn Thani) which is in the north of Thailand about 30 miles (maybe) from Vientiene, Laos.  Back to North India not too far back across Burma and Bangladesh.  I have been to most of those SE Asia (and India - Bangladesh)places for one reason or another.

They departed from Norwood, Mass. (rather than Canton one mile away)  because that was where the fuel, paved runways and the paperwork were located.
Cheers BW


for more ferry info go here https://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?topic=1195.msg8334;topicseen#msg8334
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General Helio Discussion / Re: c/n 2540, as VH-FRB
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 17, 2021, 06:32:00 PM »
Picture found of c/n 2540 as VH-FRB with the original paint scheme from the factory.

I will open it in the Photo queue above as #1

I recently saw a blog that said, 'Its sad but Australia's only Helio VH-LIW hasn't flown for several years', anyone know anything about that.
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General Helio Discussion / Re: More Skis for sale
« Last post by heliodriver on October 17, 2021, 05:46:41 AM »
They are sold.  Thanks to this forum!
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General Helio Discussion / Re: c/n 2527, as N6307V
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 16, 2021, 12:37:37 PM »
I found an older picture of c/n 2527 as N6307V, taken at Hanger Lake, Bethel AK in '85 and after looking at the history paragraph while owned by John Wetherby III AK.

I will open it in the photo queue above as #2.
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General Helio Discussion / Re: c/n 1, N92860
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 16, 2021, 11:56:56 AM »
I was hoping to come up with some more Twin photos here at Air History or where I found a bit more about the ferry flt from Norwood MA at the Malta site.

https://www.airhistory.net/original-type/750/Helio-H-250-295-391-392-395-700-800-Courier-L-24-U-10

or here http://www.aviationinmalta.com/CivilGeneralAviation/Deliveries/PropsTurboprops/tabid/875/language/en-US/Default.aspx

The Malta site shows Edward A. Cunningham as pilot on Twin Helio #1 as well as twin Helio Twin Helio #2 and 6. #1 was the 4th Helio Twin to refuel at Malta on 02/'66.

The Malta site also sort of confirms that Helio #1 was still an experimental and hadn't been given a standard airworthiness certificate yet.

The Malta site also shows a ferry route from Boston, Torbay, Santa Maria, Valencia to/Beirut which seemed like kind of a confusing route to take to get to Malta. The ferry permit shows final destination as Thailand another 4000 miles, even the final destination of Charbatia an Air Base in Eastern India is 2700 miles but it got sorted out with BW's help.

The Atlantic crossing route on all of the 5 twin helios, is Torbay to Santa Maria the shorter southern route, with 2500 mile range, turbocharged twin engines and equipped with oxygen to flyover most weather it seems to be the logical route.

sorted route; using BW's info
Boston-(actually Norwood MA)
Torbay, (Newfoundland near St Johns)
Santa Maria, (island in the Azores, close to San Miguel) ​
Valencia, (Spain)
Luqa, (Malta)
Beirut, (Lebanon)
should be a stop between Beirut and Thailand
Thailand, maybe Udorn
Charbatia Air Base, India

see BW's post below

Torbay is Newfoundland near St Johns.  Santa Maria is island in the Azores up close to San MIguel (which is now the major airport) Valencia, Malta, Bierut all are fine.  Seems like there must have been another stop somewhere between Beirut and India. For Thailand in those days the big Helio/CIA/ Etc operational base was Udorn (Udorn Thani) which is in the north of Thailand about 30 miles (maybe) from Vientiene, Laos.  Back to North India not too far back across Burma and Bangladesh.  I have been to most of those SE Asia (and India - Bangladesh)places for one reason or another.

They departed from Norwood, Mass. (rather than Canton one mile away)  because that was where the fuel, paved runways and the paperwork were located.
Cheers BW


for more ferry info go here https://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?topic=1195.msg8334;topicseen#msg8334
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General Helio Discussion / Re: c/n 1417, N6465V
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 15, 2021, 10:40:01 PM »
Here is a picture I found quite awhile ago but never posted and I recently had it confused with    
c/n 1452, N6486V I'll post it now.

The time stamp shows it was probably taken just before the first accident.

So I will open it below the other photos of N6465V in the snow with out skis and before the 2nd accident pictures I will put it in as photo #5.


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General Helio Discussion / Re: c/n 1452, N6486V
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 15, 2021, 10:32:40 PM »
Thanks I looked in my photo file unde N6465V and found the same photo that I had never uploaded to the c/n 1417, N6465 post, and it is just a little better resolution and you can clearly see the 65. I will post the better copy there.

I did an edit and closed the photo and removed up above.

go Here https://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?
topic=1043.msg6584#msg6584


I have to admit I'm slightly disappointed because I was really hoping for a N6468V photo, but the time stamp just didn't make sense.

We're back to the missing photo image I keep in my photo file see above
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General Helio Discussion / Re: c/n 1452, N6486V
« Last post by Louis on October 15, 2021, 08:14:07 PM »
Good deduction !!
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General Helio Discussion / Re: c/n 1452, N6486V
« Last post by RCarter on October 15, 2021, 07:04:16 PM »
It's a wright's helio, they are the only ones I know who use skis but no tail ski. It's on skis so we know it isn't the one that crashed in Colombia.  Colors perfectly match N6465V as does the 2005 Date.  That is my guess.  If I squint I can see 6465V
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General Helio Discussion / Re: Helio Article in Pittsburg paper
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 15, 2021, 02:28:32 PM »
Louis, I see it now https://web.archive.org 'The Way Back Machine'.

Thanks again,  I will have to add that to my favorites list that is really handy.

Doug
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