Author Topic: c/n 1247, “53144”  (Read 1621 times)

Doug Johnson

c/n 1247, “53144”
« on: April 19, 2015, 08:59:05 AM »
4 picture check your albums. Please do an internet search maybe you'll come up with one I couldn't find, I need all the help I can get.

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c/n 1247, built 04/67 as U-10D s/n 66-14345 for USAF aqccepted 04/67, t/n “66-14345” USAF 56th Air Commando Wing (SOW) Nakhon Phanom Thailand, noted in numerous periods during 1968 with Air Asia co ltd (CIA) Tainan Taiwan, so was probably used by Air America as a project aircraft for covert missions, may have been the 1st of the two spurious examples of XW-PEA(1) operated by The Ravens or Air America, USAF until 12/69, transferred to Royal Lao Air Force (probably used by Forward Air Controllers, “Ravens”, and for training Royal Laotion AF) until 5/70, reassigned, struck off charge for MaP transfered to RTAF as “53144”, on display with ‘Tango squadron’ Chiang Mai, Thailand s/n บ.ธ.๑ service period 1970-1986?

I don't know why camoflauge patterns are different or why Stephen Rubys info and the USAF records don't match.


Picture below possibly 1247, as one of three with Royal Laotian Air Force for a short time, note Lao military emblem and paint scheme




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Doug

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 1247, “53144”
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2016, 01:52:10 AM »
Steve Darke's picture again of data plate and my picture of a Royal Laotion Helio from Dr, Leeks collection
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Doug

Doug Johnson 1

Re: c/n 1247, “53144”
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2018, 05:11:10 AM »
While looking around flicker came up with a couple photos of c/n 1247.
Looks like it was in a windstorm with the tail into the wind and no aileron wedge locks.

I forgot to put my aileron locks in and had to rebuild the ailerons. Must have went unnoticed for a while to mess up the wingtips as well. Mine had a bungee that stretched over to the tie down ring with a red remove before flight flag on the hook.



« Last Edit: February 10, 2018, 05:27:06 AM by Doug Johnson 1 »

Louis

Re: c/n 1247, “53144”
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2018, 05:39:31 AM »
Looks like it is equipped with a cargo door ?

Louis

Doug Johnson 1

Re: c/n 1247, “53144”
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2018, 08:03:01 AM »
Louis, That is the upward opening Utility door all the U-10Ds were equipped with it, rearward opening cargo door didn't come until the H-7/800s. Lots of people myself included used cargo door and utility door interchangeably, I happened to notice somewhere (I think in the parts catalog) that they weren't called the same, probably because they open differently.

Just happened to notice this was another one of those Helios like 1233 that was finished at the end of the month the data plate says it was built March 1967 but it wasn't given an airworthiness certificate until April 1967.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2018, 08:10:48 AM by Doug Johnson 1 »

Louis

Re: c/n 1247, “53144”
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2018, 05:59:42 PM »
used cargo door and utility door interchangeably,

So what is the correct ( official) word for them ?

Louis

Doug Johnson 1

Re: c/n 1247, “53144”
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2018, 08:18:11 AM »
How about "big rear door on the left side"

I looked in the illustrated parts break down for U-10s and it appears to be a litter door or an optional para-drop door that folds in the middle for U-10B/Ds c/n 547 thru c/n 1277.

On military H-295s the door that folds up from the bottom is called a litter door in a couple references to the door it is also called a utility door.

I then looked in the civilian H-295 parts catalog and in locator it is called Utility cargo door (the utility was in bold print) and in the actual breakdown only Utility door is used.

I'm not sure where I found the H-7/800 as just a Cargo door and I'm tired of looking, but in my mind the Utility door that opens upward is the better door because it can be installed with nothing more than a log book endorsement and if the door comes open in flight it pretty much a non event it just floats upward and can be pulled closed but if the Cargo door which opens to the rear comes open in flight you will be landing to repair some damage, that actually happened on one of Jaars Helios and there was damage and an incident report was filed.

I only know of one Helio with the para-drop door c/n 1422 Ken Berger installed it with nothing more than a log book endorsement of installation of an optional Helio door p/n xxx-xx-xxxx.

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