Author Topic: c/n 527, N814BS  (Read 4544 times)

Doug Johnson

c/n 527, N814BS
« on: February 18, 2015, 07:00:14 AM »
3 pictures check your albums. Please do an internet search maybe you'll come up with one I couldn't find, I need all the help I can get.

Edit: Jason sent a picture, If I remember correctly Jason said N1401X was still visible. Hopefully he will send or post a couple pictures, and give us an update on the project.

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c/n 527, built 12/60 as model H-395 with 60 gal fuel, original registry N4176D 01/61 (no FAA file ?), 10/61 USAF off shelf purchase as reconfigured as L-28A given serial/number (62-3604), tail number "23604" USAF Strategic Air Command 3902nd Air Base Wing Offutt AFB NE until '61, USAF Strategic Air Command 389th Strategic Missile Wing F.E. Warren AFB WY until '62, A/C Evaluated at Ft Bragg by Army Aviation review board as L-28A 07/62 sometime after evaluation 120 gal LR Fuel tanks installed reassigned in '62, re-designated U-10A '62, USAF Tactical Air Command 1st Air Commando Group EAF Aux Florida until '63, U-10A Trainer 4510th Combat Crew Training Wing Luke Eglin Aux Fld AZ until '63, 354th Tactical Fighter Wing Myrtle Beach AFB SC until '64, 1st Air Commando Wing Eglin Aux Fld #9 FL until '66, 4410th Combat Crew Training Wing Aux Field Eglin Air FL until '66, 1st Air Commando Wing Aux Fld Eglin FL until '67, 4410th Combat Crew Training Wing Aux Fld Eglin FL until '69, USAF with Aerospace Services inc at Oakland-International Airport CA Depot Work until '70, Air Materiel Command Warner Robins AFB GA Air Materiel Area 1st Special Ops Wing, on loan to CIA until '71, USAF declared excess released as N1401X Johnson Aviation operates for DEA TX until '75, dereg returned to (62-3604) not painted on A/C USAF Logistics Command MMAPV Wright-Patterson AFB OH until '75, rereg N1401X loaned to US Dept of Agriculture TX until '76, registry cancelled '77, returned to USAF as 62-3604 declared excess placed in storage Davis-Montham AFB AZ until '78, surplussed to CAP TX as flyable aircraft in '81, reg as N5525G Cap request de-registry (as non-flyable) placed in parts inventory in '81, Cap sold as scrap in '92, to Bill Duff sold '02 as N5525G, to Bruce Stephens (B.J. Aircraft services) AK in '05, rereg N814BS Bruce Stephens (2nd of 3) Arizona Soaring inc in '09, now project with son Jason Stephens Maricopa AZ expired reg ?, reg N814BS placed on hold '12

Interesting airplane I believe it was the 1st USAF U-10A trainer and first of three evaluated in '61 for remote missile silo support in a test to train SAC silo personel to fly themselves to their missile silos. my understanding is that it didn't work they kept having incidents and they went back to ferrying the personnel in helicopters. Anyone know more of the story.

I found this;
A Capt.Dick Birch and I (Don Carty, Col. USAF-Ret) flew a Helio in 1961 at Malstrom AFB, MT 341st Missile Wing As far as I know I was one of the first and probably the first USAF pilot to fly one. The USAF wanted it for Missile crew members to fly back and forth to MINUTEMAN missile site. I still have a check list I think. It was called the L-28 when I flew it.It could slow fly at 27 kts. Max ceiling was 18000 ft. and it got 13 miles per gallon for a range of 900 miles.The USAF replaced it with L-20 BEAVERS which were replaced by H-19 Helicopters after a non rated missile crew crashed one about 1962.



I removed picture of C-185



« Last Edit: October 16, 2019, 10:16:37 AM by Doug Johnson »
Doug

Jason Stephens

Re: c/n 527, N814BS
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2015, 10:55:26 PM »
I'll try to get a couple photos of it for you.  Its got the post-less, flip up cargo door, military style long range tanks, and a hatch in the floor.  Just sitting in the back of our hangar until we get the other airplane finished.

Jason Stephens

Re: c/n 527, N814BS
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2015, 09:34:31 PM »
Here's a pic of the data plate and the fuselage in our hangar.  When we got the aircraft from Duff it had probably a good 50lbs of various radio equipment installed in the cabin.

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 527, N814BS
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2015, 04:28:48 AM »
Thanks for picture must be dusty there. Also thanks for data plate picture I made the build date correction as I said before this is another that was finished at the end of the month 12/60 and the airworthiness flight didn't take place until 01/61  and the FAA files give the date as 01/61.
Doug

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 527, N814BS
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2015, 03:41:26 AM »
I found this;
A Capt.Dick Birch and I (Don Carty, Col. USAF-Ret) flew a Helio in 1961 at Malmstrom AFB, MT 341st Missile Wing As far as I know I was one of the first and probably the first USAF pilot to fly one. The USAF wanted it for Missile crewmembers to fly back and forth to MINUTEMAN missile site. I still have a check list I think. It was called the L-28 when I flew it.It could slow fly at 27 kts. Max ceiling was 18000 ft. and it got 13 miles per gallon for a range of 900 miles.The USAF replaced it with L-20 BEAVERS which were replaced by H-19 Helicopters after a non rated missile crew crashed one about 1962.
Doug

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 527, N814BS
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2016, 12:36:30 AM »
Found 2 pictures one is the Army evaluation of the L-28 using c/ 527 one of the things it failed on, was range because of 60 gal fuel tanks. At time of build only 60 gal fuel tanks were available, sometime after evaluation 120 gal LR Fuel tanks were installed. As the First Air Force L-28 Helio it was first in a lot of things may have even been the first to later have the long range fuel installed. There seems to be no record of LR fuel being installed in any of this first contract of 5 in '62 the second contract of 24 in '62, the first 22 went to the USAF and last 2 went to the Army. I believe it was the 2nd contract when the LR fuel was installed. Apparently on at least c/n 504 the LR fuel was retrofitted.

I opened them above
« Last Edit: January 25, 2016, 01:48:37 AM by Doug Johnson »
Doug

Jason Stephens

Re: c/n 527, N814BS
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2016, 02:01:38 PM »
So its a L-28 then?  Interesting!

Doug Johnson

Re: c/n 527, N814BS
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2016, 04:59:12 PM »
 you didn't read the history carefully it was built as a H-395, purchased by AF, converted and renamed to L-28A then renamed U-10A
Doug