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Doug Johnson

1982....30 year reunion
« on: July 16, 2014, 01:12:45 PM »
A couple pics that Gordon Cragg had scanned of 1982 Helio gathering at Pittsburg KS airport that were hanging in Atkinson airport managers office

The Helios identified are c/n 1475 left row front, c/n 1420 left row rear, Stallion c/n 004 middle, c/n 1231 right row 2nd and 1429 right row rear.

c/n 1475, built 05/74, model H-295, originally N68875 John Roberts (dealer) SC '74, Dr. Leslie Nesmith KS accident pilot was on a night approach he reduced power and landed hard after a high rate of sink due to low airspeed @ Agusta KS 10/79 sold '89, Rev Brian Ballard export '89, reg C-FOMI R.C. Episcopal Corp of Prince Rupert, Fort St. James, BC, accident crash wing separation severe turbulence @ 37nm Southeast of Valemount near Prince George BC '01, destroyed reg cancelled

c/n 1420, built 01/70, model H-295", originally N6469V Charles Raney Jr OH accident pilot made a hard landing and the landing gear collapsed during the landing roll. A factor was winds that were gusting to 15 knots @ Saxonburg-Cooper PA 8/70, next accident aircraft mushed during the initial climb on take-off because he was to far behind the power curve. Pilot took off with snow on the wings and the aircraft was 184lb over Gross Weight although the CG was OK @ Medina-Freedom OH 11/71 sold '80, Dr Richard Irwin KS accident aircraft stall/mushed during initial climb on take-off, with winds gusting to 30 knots, the pilot had failed to obtain or maintain flying speed @ Johnson-Stanton KS 10/80 sold '08, Joel Mann (Priority Farms) CA '12, Ted Morgan Glenn, CA for sale '14, by Gordon Cragg

c/n 004, s/n (72-1330), built 01/72 as model AU-24A minigunship converted to civilian Stallion HST-550A, originally N9553A leased by USAF for evaluation then purchased as s/n (72-21330) t/n “21330” 05/72 US Air Force Systems Command 05/72, USAF Tactical Air Command, 4400th Special Operations Squadron (provisional), Eglin AFB FL 07/72, USAF Air Materiel Command, Davis-Monthan AFB 11/72, struck off charge and transfer under MaP as “21330” to Royal Khmer AF, incident repaired and re-enforced several ribs on the left hand wing from damage caused by heavy vibration from the aircraft weapon @ unknown 11/73, accident repaired damage to the left wing tip @ unknown area 02/74, 04/75 escaped to Trat Thailand salvaged at Bangkok A Sealed Bid Sale, No. 62-6040, included this aircraft as Item 19. It was located at the Royal Thai Naval Air Base, Utapao, Thailand 04/76, reg N9991F (reused but ntu on 007) returned to US '76, Reed, Schachle & Turinsky AK demilitarized '81, Ron Sutphin OR '81, Alfred & Tom Teufel WA '84, Hamilton Mobile Service co CA '86, James Perry VT leases to Perris Valley Skydiving accident destroyed Jim Lowe fatal crash after dropping skydivers the pilot entered a descent to return to the airport for another load of jumpers. He was receiving radar advisories during the drop from a TRACON controller. As the aircraft descended below 4,000 feet MSL the controller terminated the radar advisory service. Immediately after the controller discontinued the service he asked the pilot to check for a stuck microphone switch. The aircraft continued its descent and collided with a camping trailer and building under construction in an extreme nose low attitude. The elevator trim was found in the full nose down position. No other malfunctions were found @ Perris Valley Perris, CA 6/88, destroyed dereg '88

c/n 1231, built 03/67, model H-295, originally N6339V Arizona Helicopters Inc (Robert Wach) AZ install Rajay turbochargers accident enroute to Katmandu while on takeoff run the aircraft collided with ditches @ Rampur Nepal 11/68 sold '76, John Brons ID '78, Ray Loesche (Rainbow King Lodge) installed tundra tires AK '80, sold Stan Steven NT assigned (C-FZYI ntu) sold '81, N456JH James Harrower AK (Rainbow King Lodge inc) accident during the take-off roll on the runway at approximately 20 to 25mph the pilot lost directional control of the aircraft and it ground looped to the right @ Anchorage AK 9/88, next accident pilot stated that while flying at about 500 feet above mountainous terrain and approaching a saddle, the aircraft encountered a downdraft. Despite the addition of full power, the aircraft continued to descend until it contacted the ground and nosed over @ Port Alsworth AK 7/91, wreck exported Chambly, Quebec, Canada never registered (C-reg ntu) Neil Bilodeau parted out data plate only left

c/n 1429, built 03/70, model H-295, originlly N6475V Richard Davis KS installed Rayjay/Riley Turbocharger '73, Pamlico Inc (Sidney Futch ?) NC accident with variable winds aircraft ground looped during the landing roll and the cross wind landing gear collapsed @ Macon GA 8/74 repaired sold '75, Great Northern Paper Co MA removed crosswind gear installed Skis '78, Larry Montgomery (Larmont Aviation dealer) SC '79, John Warden MI accident the driver of a car parked at the East end of the East/West runway to watch aircraft taking off and landing on the North/South runway. After landing on the South end of the North/South runway, the pilot taxied to his right around a group of hangars and onto the East end of the East/West runway. Neither the pilot nor his passengers saw the vehicle @ Ozark MO 3/82, Irvin Lipscomb AK painted with a glossy Vietnam U-10 camouflage paint scheme accident while attempting to take-off downhill with a passenger and 90 to 100gal of fuel on board (approximately 100lb. below maximum Gross Weight) the aircraft lifted off approximately 800' down a 1,200' long grass field with 40' tall trees at the end of the field the left wing of the aircraft contacted a tree the aircraft then rotated 180o and impacted the ground. The pilot had landed the aircraft in the field on the day before when deteriorating weather was encountered in flight @ Winslow AK 3/85, destroyed Irvin Lipscomb Fairbanks, AK deregistered
 
can anybody identify the rest?

The 3 tri-gear airplanes are most likely 1700 series because most of the conversions were still with the CAP.


view of left side from rear


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Jason Stephens

Re: 1982....30 year reunion
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 04:05:51 AM »
I came across this skydiving video on youtube.  It shows Mike Mullins' Stallion which appears to have the same paint scheme.  Could it be that Stallion was Mike's and not the other one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWYP9pIO-9Q

Doug Johnson

Re: 1982....30 year reunion
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 06:39:43 AM »
Good question, took some figuring on my part. While both 004 and 006 were painted nearly the same. This is Mikes Stallion in pic below you get just a glimpse of the Mark in the first part of the video, the next pic is one of the c/n 004 stallion while with the Teufel bro's. It was sent to me by Larry Teufel, I don't believe 004 ever had the large registry Number painted on.

The dates of the gathering and dates of events with 004 and 006 seem to fit also, the clincher 006 was in Bolivia at the time of the '82 event and would have had the Bolivian registry painted on it.

c/n 006, s/n (72-1321), built 03/72, as AU-24A converted to civilian stallion HST-550A originally USAF s/n (72-1321) t/n “21321” accepted to US Air Force Systems Command 03/72, USAF Tactical Air Command, 4400th Special Operations Squadron (provisional), Eglin AFB FL 06/72, USAF Air Materiel Command, Davis-Monthan AFB 11/72, struck off charge and transfer under MaP as “21321” to Royal Khmer AF incident no details with battle damage @ over Cambodia 08/73, 04/75 escaped to Trat Thailand salvaged at Bangkok 04/76, A Sealed Bid Sale, No. 62-6040, included this aircraft as Item 20. It was located at the Royal Thai Naval Air Base Utapao Thailand, reg N9992F returned to US '76 Reed, Schachle & Turinsky AK demilitarized also only Stallion Airglass L W S100 Wheel Skis were installed on sold '78, dereg and export as reg CP-1396 Empresa Aurotaxi Ltda (EMUSA) La Paz, Bolivia sold '84, dereg export as N5779N Larry Montgomery (Larmont Aviation dealer) stored Spartanburg '84, PB Odom OK '87, Mike Mullins MO modified door and removed wing tip tanks for skydiving de-rated PT6A-34 to (680 shp), reinstalled wing tip tanks accident the airplane collided with trees and power lines during takeoff from a 2000 feet long open area with 10 parachutists aboard. The pilot said he experienced an unsolicited rollback in engine power prior to the collision. Reportedly, some power was regained however, but no in time to avoid the collision. But, the jump chairman reported that no change in the engine’s operation was observed throughout the mishap. Witnesses at the takeoff area reported that the winds were 12 knots out of the Northeast, which would have given the flight a quartering tailwind component for the takeoff. According to the Flight Manual, the maximum demonstrated crosswind is 12 knots. An examination of the airplane failed to indicate any system malfunction or failure @ Mobile AL 9/90, Mike Mullins TX sold wreck to Patrick Taylor for use in restoring stallion proto no. 2 '90, incident damaged by saltwater immersion by Hurricane Katrina @ near New Orleans LA '05, dbr sold '07 sold as scrap to be used for display purposes only Last Plane Out llc (David Grantham) LA, '09 sold to Airborne Leasing llc LA, donated to tech school Baton Rouge, LA

Doug   


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gearedone

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Re: 1982....30 year reunion
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 01:15:36 PM »
The tri-gear airplanes are converted U-10's the Air Force pawned off to the CAP, the blue and white HT-295 is N5383G I think, I'll have to check my photos in my Helio photo album from the same time. The HT-295 was offered for sale by Larmont Aviation..

Nope, I'm wrong. The right side row there is one Helio 1700 maybe N68889, the last airplane in that row is a Helio 250..

I'll get back with the rest
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gearedone

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Re: 1982....30 year reunion
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 01:37:56 PM »
The 3 tri-gear airplanes are most likely 1700 series because most of the conversions were still with the CAP.

Not true, Larmont had several HT-295's for sale that came from the CAP at the time..

Doug Johnson

Re: 1982....30 year reunion
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 05:02:42 PM »
I will make it easier for you Stephen.

There were 15 CAP trigear Helios (I have the FAA files for all 15) of these 1251, 1254 (a wreck in 80), 1259, 1260, and 1271 had been released from CAP by 1982.

1251, N5072K had been released in 82

1254, was a wreck that was sold to Larry Montgomery never rebuilt but eventually wound up in Canada with Len Harasimiuk as a project.

1259 N808BD had been released

1260 N5399G was sold to Larry Montgomery

1271 N5378G had been released

Also there were 4 others converted by the factory for sale to Mexico (I have the FAA files for them also)  1213, 1214, 1446, and 2528 of these only 1213 returned to the USA as N204CW now N295DG

I think 2 in the right row of the 3 tri gears in the pic have 1400/1700 paint schemes.
so you have only 4 possible U-10s and 1213 that could be the 1 trigear in the left row.

Also the first one in the right row is the H-250 the last one in the right row is the camo 1249.

By the way when are you going to scan all these photos you have and share them with the rest of us? I would be willing to pay if you took them to a photo shop. You could even watermark them Stephen Rubys collection

Doug
« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 05:08:23 PM by Doug Johnson »
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gearedone

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Re: 1982....30 year reunion
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2014, 07:28:24 AM »
Hi Doug,

Here is what I'll do. I'll put all the photos together and send them to you and you can do whatever to re-size, scan, or whatever process you want and then they can be shared with everyone here.

Send me an e-mail with your contact info and when all the EAA hull-a-ba-loo is over, I'll go through the best ones and send to you. I have the original color prints with N4104D when it was christened and delivered to Summer Linguistics Institute (JAARS), the first Helio they got. These pics were taken at Meigs Field in the winter of 1955. I had prints made up from color slides.

Doug Johnson

Re: 1982....30 year reunion
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2014, 09:38:27 PM »
Steven, That would be just great I'll email you with the info probably tomorrow.

I will also return them to you, along with a copy of those I've managed to collect.

Thanks a lot.

Doug
Doug

Doug Johnson

Re: 1982....30 year reunion
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 11:20:08 AM »
Hi Doug,

Here is what I'll do. I'll put all the photos together and send them to you and you can do whatever to re-size, scan, or whatever process you want and then they can be shared with everyone here.

Send me an e-mail with your contact info and when all the EAA hull-a-ba-loo is over, I'll go through the best ones and send to you. I have the original color prints with N4104D when it was christened and delivered to Summer Linguistics Institute (JAARS), the first Helio they got. These pics were taken at Meigs Field in the winter of 1955. I had prints made up from color slides.


I was hoping Stephen was serious on sharing, I sent the contact info, but apparently as always it is not to be, because I've never received anything. Or am I just bring impatient?

Doug
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