Author Topic: Helio Courier MK II/295  (Read 8861 times)

gearedone

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Helio Courier MK II/295
« on: September 21, 2012, 05:19:55 PM »
Helio N77TR is back on the market at a reduced price

This was originally built as a 250 and converted to 295 in 1966. Under a 337.

All records are with the plane.

2700 TTAF...550 hours since overhaul.

This is one of the best Helio's on the market currently and I've flown it.

N77TR
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 05:25:19 PM by gearedone »

Doug Johnson

Re: Helio Courier MK II/295
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2012, 06:35:11 PM »
Stephen,
I'm sure that 2514 is a fine Helio. I'm curious if they actually got the FAA to change the model?
Its the last line below, and the last line in the FAA file.

31Oct73
Converted to a Helio H-295
N5456E, Helio H-295 Super Courier, Serial Number 2514

31Oct73
Converted from a Helio H-250 Courier Mk. II

Engine :
Lycoming GO-480-G1D6, with Hartzell HC-93Z20-1 propeller

31Oct73
modified, with aircraft being re-rigged to H-295 specifications and placarded for H-295 limitations. Now complies with H-295 Type Certificate and has H-295 Operations Manual incorporated. Installation was approved by the Factory as per letter of 18Oct73.

12June00 FAA requested to change Certificate of Registration to reflect that the aircaft is an H-295

19July00 FAA reply that an application should be made for an Inspector to approve the change, via a completed Application for Airworthiness Certificate.

Doug

Gordon Cragg

Re: Helio Courier MK II/295
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2012, 02:21:01 PM »
Paul really should look into this 2000 letter from the FAA concerning the airworthiness certificate change from an H-250 to a H-295. If this is really possible (???) it would be worth the effort.
Gordon Cragg
713-502-7274

RCarter

Re: Helio Courier MK II/295
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2014, 01:23:56 PM »
Long time lurker but first time poster.

I noticed 77TR is listed for sale again in Trade-a-plane.  What if any gross weight upgrades can be applied to this plane given its serial number and factory designation?  It has been noted before that the 250 series was ineligible for the 3800# upgross.  Does that also apply to this plane or does the 337 and other FAA documentation converting it to 295 status allow it be modified with the increased gross weight kit?

Gordon Cragg

Re: Helio Courier MK II/295
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2014, 08:54:18 PM »
I think it would be prudent to first inspect the documents that are filed with the FAA on this airplane. As I have said before, there are a number of Helios out there that have had "strange" things happen to their paperwork and the way that some interpret it.
Doug do you have the FAA file on this Helio?
Gordon Cragg

Doug Johnson

Re: Helio Courier MK II/295
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2014, 06:45:59 AM »
I do have the FAA files but can't attach to a personal message.

Send me an email I'll send a copy.

Doug
Doug

Gordon Cragg

Re: Helio Courier MK II/295
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2014, 07:47:26 AM »
Thanks Doug for the files. There is a FAA Form 337 that was "Field Approved" by the Los Angeles FAA FSDO Office in October of 1973 converting the H-250 to H-295 specifications. There is also a letter from Bob Casebeer, representing the factory, detailing instructions on how to accomplish this.
So for all practical intents and purposes this H-250 has been legally converted to H-295 specifications.
The airworthiness certificate and the data plate would remain as a H-250 as this is how the factory produced the Helio and gave it a construction number.
Gordon Cragg
713-502-7274

Doug Johnson

Re: Helio Courier MK II/295
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2014, 12:08:12 PM »
Yes. I agree.

But I think that the problem would still remain that its not listed on the STC as one of those eligible for the upgross.

Probably still need to take it to AK and get a field approval for the gross weight increase.

Doug
Doug

RCarter

Re: Helio Courier MK II/295
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 01:40:55 PM »
Thank you both for sharing your information and accumulated knowledge.  I had initially figured that since the serial number of 77TR was never listed on the original STC it would require a field approval of some type to get an increased gross weight approved.  Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

gearedone

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Re: Helio Courier MK II/295
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2014, 03:29:46 PM »
The only reason for never approving the H250 for 3800 pounds was you'd never get it that heavy with the O-540-A1A5, just like you'd never opt for the 120 gallon fuel. Since the airplane has everything a 295 has there is extra tubing up under the rudder pedals for an increase to 3800 pounds it has the bigger stab also.

Stephen

Doug Johnson

N77TR sold
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2015, 01:21:43 AM »
I just noticed c/n 2514 has appeared in the Registry as Sold 5/15, to Kenneth McAllister (I CORP Non Citizen Corp.)

Anyone know where its new operating area will be. 

A quick search for I corp shows Anchorage AK and that Kenneth also owns a Cessna 180
Doug