Author Topic: Unidentified Helio IV  (Read 3079 times)

Doug Johnson 1

Unidentified Helio IV
« on: July 14, 2018, 12:24:41 PM »
Previous posts below of unidentified Helios.

click on link http://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?topic=1398.0

click on link http://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?topic=454.msg3136#msg3136

click on link http://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?topic=1339.msg5592#msg5592

I found this picture at Flicker labeled Helio with Garrett turbine I just looked at the thumbnail and sent off a post to a friend asking what he thought it was since it didn't really look like a Helio. He of course expanded the thumbnail saw it had an N registry looked it up saw it was a DeHaviland beaver c/n 1207. Then googled the registry and came up with this kind of interesting link with some info and better picture. I really don't think it is a one of a kind anymore though.

click on link https://www.fws.gov/news/blog/index.cfm/2017/11/7/N754-A-Piece-of-FWS-and-Aviation-History



« Last Edit: July 15, 2018, 12:55:53 PM by Doug Johnson 1 »

Jason Stephens

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2018, 01:43:42 PM »
Is that 2nd photo of the plane that hangs in the Anchorage terminal?  Boy it is ugly in my opinion.

Doug Johnson 1

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2018, 07:41:42 PM »
I can tell you didn't click on the link where it tells you

Headed to Alaska? You can soon catch a glimpse of U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service history at the Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport.

The above plane (N754), a testament to human ingenuity, is being installed at the airport and should be ready for its close-up in mid-November.

N754 started out as an ordinary deHavilland Beaver built in 1952, and it flew military missions in Cuba.  Its transformation into something extraordinary began when the Service acquired it as surplus in 1964.

Doug Johnson 1

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2019, 03:25:43 PM »
Here is a Helio that popped up at a Jaars Facebook page and not completely identified.

It is probably one of six H-391B Helios c/n 030 N4113D, c/n 039 N4118D, c/n 042, N4123D, c/n 066 N41233D, c/n N4133D 090 or c/n 100 N4148D. anyone know for sure which one it is .

It is probably fresh from the factory this particular paint scheme doesn't seem to show up connected to any of these N #'s anywhere or I've overlooked it.

« Last Edit: August 05, 2019, 11:17:38 PM by Doug Johnson 1 »

Louis

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2019, 08:20:23 PM »
Incredible floats on that Beaver.  Looks like if the pilot or copilot have to get out in flight to go put the gear down

Louis

Doug Johnson 1

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2019, 02:57:15 AM »
I thought the Helio was probably c/n 030 N4113D after it arrived at Jaars since it continued to fly for a long period in Peru without a Peru registry.

Steve believes it to be N4138D

Too bad I can't put the picture at the top of the picture queue in the history file.

click on http://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?topic=739.msg3723#msg3723
« Last Edit: August 06, 2019, 09:18:55 PM by Doug Johnson 1 »

Kevin Dunn

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2019, 12:56:24 PM »
Doug,

Not sure who sent you the email, but as the pilot for BMW in Honduras, I can assure you that the airplane is not N4138D during it's time in Honduras. It was bare aluminum when we bought it and I had it painted in Mena in 1996 using the 295 scheme.  As far as I know, it still has that paint job on it. It might be 38D from earlier.

Kevin

Steve Williams

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2019, 07:45:07 PM »
There is some confusion here. I stated that the fourth photo down in Doug's February 04 2015 post showed N4138D while operated by Biblical Ministries Worldwide in Honduras [type 'N4138D' into the search box at the top right of the page and hit ENTER. Scroll down to post number 4, dated February 04 2015, then down to the fourth photograph]. I saw this picture on the net, with a caption indicating the operator and location as above. I did not suggest that the 'unidentified Helio IV' in Doug's August 04 2019 post was with Biblical Ministries Worldwide when the photo was taken, nor that it was taken in Honduras.


Steve Williams

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2019, 08:31:40 PM »
The font used for the registration appears to be Amarilo USAF, with a very small piece of the third character visible in the photo. It's from a chamfered corner of the type seen on a '2', '3', '6', '8', '9' or '0'. The fourth character can only be a '3' or an '8'. I suspect that it's N4138D.

A photo of N4138D when operated by WBNS Radio in the late fifties, early sixties, shows an antenna fairing atop the fuselage. It's also visible, along with an under-fuselage whip antenna, in a January 1980 photo. Both of these can be seen in the 'unidentified' photo. JAARS were flying N4138D within that time-frame, and wasn't the picture found on their facebook page?

Doug Johnson 1

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2019, 09:25:56 PM »
I edited my earlier post and removed the reference to Biblical Ministries Worldwide I obviously didn't read Steve's email carefully sorry to add to the confusion
« Last Edit: August 06, 2019, 10:54:13 PM by Doug Johnson 1 »

Kevin Dunn

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2019, 03:55:28 PM »
I sent the picture to a friend of mine who worked on 38D while he was with JAARS beginning in '73. He said the picture does appear to be the JAARS center in the early days, before everything was paved. He could not identify the guys in the picture. My guess is that it is 38D in the early days during it's time with JAARS.

Kevin

Doug Johnson 1

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2019, 11:59:52 AM »
While looking at the Facebook page I found another Photo that has a nice back ground but doesn't have good enough resolution to identify the Yellow Helio. There was a comment saying C-FIYZ c/n 045 in back, but says nothing about the Yellow Helio in front. Who's photo is this?

There is a photo of c/n 1401 as C-GHDT here http://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?topic=1026.msg4281#msg4281 that has a very similar paint scheme but in this photo it appears to have an N-reg number that begins with N and ends with V.

Anyone know if the yellow Helio is c/n 1401, just arriving in Canada with its previous registry of N6327V still on the a/c?


Anyone have a better copy of the photo, with higher resolution?
« Last Edit: September 29, 2019, 10:04:02 PM by Doug Johnson 1 »

dtreid

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2019, 10:21:55 PM »
The yellow Helio in front is C-FSAA.

Doug Johnson 1

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2019, 12:57:33 PM »
Thank you David I have no other pictures of c/n 520 C-FSAA but looking at the History paragraph of both c/n 520 it appears that c/n 1401 was a replacement for c/n 520 by Nahanni Air Serv and what I thought was an N-reg on the yellow Helio in the picture is probably the word NAHANNI.

Link to c/n 520, C-FSAA  http://flyhelio.com/smf/index.php?topic=773.msg3802;topicseen#msg3802

Doug Johnson 1

Re: Unidentified Helio IV
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2019, 11:56:58 AM »
Another unidentified Helio named Suzy anyone know which one this is.

Is it possibly N295HC with Michael Steel. since it is the right color and located in San Diego.
Also looks like a Phone number on the flap.

If so what is the Suzy story? Is it something temporary?

« Last Edit: October 01, 2019, 12:01:24 PM by Doug Johnson 1 »